1. M7H - February 27th, 2009 at 09:42

Thank Adrie Bertin for this rediculous rule!…
He was the one pushing it forward on the AGM……

2. M7H - February 27th, 2009 at 09:43

+n, makes Adrien….

3. Peo Hard - February 27th, 2009 at 14:18

Hello!

The change to 7min qualifying heats in 1:10 came as a suprise to many after the EFRA AGM in November as the fuel consumption issue has not been a big issue in the 1:10 class. Most normally tuned engines can do 5 minutes or more. As far as I understand the rest of the World still do 5min (IFMAR does 10min).

The negative impact of 7min could be that the engines get more tuned as they only need to do 4min now on a tank. A more heavily tuned engine is more sensitive on adjusting, decreases engine life maybe, a faster engine makes car setup even more senstive, with higher speed and rpm comes a higher noice level (the oposite what EFRA is aiming for), with more power comes more speed and a higher tirewear normally that increases costs, with higher costs comes less drivers. The race organisation must have people observing that all drivers goes in for pitting. Some drivers I have talked to do not have a dedicated mechanic with them, that will be important to have as the refueling must be done very fast do have a chance to get a good qualifying heat.

I am still trying to understand the positive sides of the rule change but it is not easy, I guess 2009 will be a test year.

For the future developent to attract more drivers to the sport I hope the decision was based on good arguments!

Happy Racing in 2009!

Ps. This post is for 1:10 racing and not 1:8

4. daniz24 - February 27th, 2009 at 16:40

nice, let’s kill this sport. we don’t want anyone to race RC anymore…

stupid rules

5. Stefan - February 27th, 2009 at 16:48

I think those who can afford to run their engines leaner than it’s healthy will have an advantage … so or so. I don’t see the problem with the refueling as there should be enough experienced pitmen that can refuel 10 cars. The thing I don’t like on the new rule is the fact that it’s not just the pure driving in qualifying now. And I also don’t think that engines will be even more powerful because of the 4min stint. Normally an engine is always designed for racing and not for qualifying so I don’t expect a change here.
But overall I would say that this is really some king of ridiculous.

6. Stefan - February 27th, 2009 at 16:51

kind

7. AP - February 27th, 2009 at 18:32

“Unfortunately, this will also mean that some drivers through ignorance, or because their engine consumed a bit more, will find themselves in trouble.
In that case the rule does not meet the objective, that it was designed for.”

So the mandatory pitstop within the 7 minute race is to prevent drivers ignorance, or an engine that consumes a bit more???
If you think people can almost make 7 minutes if not for ignorance then how can 5 minutes be such a problem that it required a rule change?
Only a small % of drivers have trouble making 5 min and usually because they are tuned to get the most speed possible, not so much as for making run time. A 5 minute race limits an extremely modded motor with the possible penalty of a fuel stop.
I fear 7 minute racing will create the need for a seperate “Qualifying” motor. How strapped up are people going to be when they only have to run 3:30 on a tank???
More fuel$$
More motors$$
More wear and tear$$

Was this rule for the racers or for someones pocket book??

8. michael - February 27th, 2009 at 18:54

this is for the motor mfg’s, no one else will get any thing from it
if efra is so worried about run time , would it not be cheaper
on the hobby to run 5 cc more in a tank?, if this rule sticks it
will indeed be bad , as it will become a two motor hobby

9. Josh Cyrul - February 28th, 2009 at 00:36

More fuel usage, more tire usage, seperate qualification engines (3:30 fuel milage) and clutch set-ups as well as the need for good pit people in qualification (top drivers/companies with more dedicated mechanics) just adds more cost with the same results except probably a decrease in attendance as more people see that it doesn’t add up…….

Adding 5cc doesn’t fix the problem either as we will find a way to use it so in 3-6 months the same problem is here.

EFRA I think made a poor choice on this one….

10. Anders Myrberg - March 1st, 2009 at 00:18

Quote Franky Noens: “Unfortunately, this will also mean that some drivers through ignorance, or because their engine consumed a bit more, will find themselves in trouble.”

-will find themself in trouble?????

I always thought that tactics is a part of the sport and you win or loose depending on how you use your tactics.

Strange indeed.